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i want to say, tamron, that it was house speaker john boehner's birthday. president obama gave him a bottle of wine. >> kristen, you spoimed it. we were going to show that later. rats. really, kristen welker? >> caller: so, sorry. >> i have something else to ask you about. i'm just giving you grief. the civic meeting is taking place, the reverend al, the national action network, and he's meeting with civic leaders. is he prepares some on the letter r left for concessions or things they may not like that comes out of these negotiations? >> reporter: well, i think it's both. i think it's that he's trying to prepare some on the left for concessions. he's trying to build up really his strength to be able to put pressure on republicans to come to the table with him over taxes. president obama meeting with with union leaders early this week, also business leaders, so he's really trying to form a broad consensus, i think, to put pressure on republicans and democrats to get something done, to actually get something accomplished before that january 1st deadline. tam
i want to say, tamron, that it was house speaker john boehner's birthday. president obama gave him a bottle of wine. >> kristen, you spoimed it. we were going to show that later. rats. really, kristen welker? >> caller: so, sorry. >> i have something else to ask you about. i'm just giving you grief. the civic meeting is taking place, the reverend al, the national action network, and he's meeting with civic leaders. is he prepares some on the letter r left for concessions or...
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john boehner wants to find common ground. and even sean hannity is trying to shift to the middle. >> we have to get rid of the immigration issue all together. it's simple. you control the border first. you create a pathway for those that are here. you don't say you have to go home. and that's a position i have evolved on. because you know what, it's got to be resolved. the majority of people here, some have criminal records, you can send them home. but if they are law-abiding, kids are born here, first secure the border, pathway to citizenship, done. whatever little penalties you want to put in there. then it's done. >> pathway to citizenship, done. where was all this talk before the election? you see this is all about getting votes. it's not coming from the heart. reforming immigration policy is a huge risk for the republicans. they could alienate their base. there's no guarantee they will win the latino vote in the long run. let's turn to ruy teixeira. great to have you with us. >> delighted to be here. >> you predicted thi
john boehner wants to find common ground. and even sean hannity is trying to shift to the middle. >> we have to get rid of the immigration issue all together. it's simple. you control the border first. you create a pathway for those that are here. you don't say you have to go home. and that's a position i have evolved on. because you know what, it's got to be resolved. the majority of people here, some have criminal records, you can send them home. but if they are law-abiding, kids are...
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apparently speaker boehner is and many in the republican leader are. are you? >>guest: okay let me give you an example of why --. >>neil: you are not answering me. >>guest: wait, wait, wait, illinois -- back when governor walker in wisconsin was making systematic changes to the state budget and making legitimate and difficult cuts his neighbors in illinois were not. all they did, they said --. >>neil: i know, i know, i know, i know. but would you look at closing the loopholes as a step? >>guest: closing the loopholes that hurt charity service that will hurt the poor? and the weak? and the hungry? >>neil: no, no, no, you are not budging on anything? >>guest: it is not that i will not budge. i want a serious conversation with the president. i will not compromise my child's future and i will not hurt the charities. >>neil: you answered my question. always good to have you. >>guest: are you afraid i am going to leap through and grab you? >>neil: i was. and new york residents are now taking to the streets. >> more jobs. >> we pay the highest rates in the country out
apparently speaker boehner is and many in the republican leader are. are you? >>guest: okay let me give you an example of why --. >>neil: you are not answering me. >>guest: wait, wait, wait, illinois -- back when governor walker in wisconsin was making systematic changes to the state budget and making legitimate and difficult cuts his neighbors in illinois were not. all they did, they said --. >>neil: i know, i know, i know, i know. but would you look at closing the...
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boehner says he's open to that but not by raising the so-called tax rate. he's opened to that by eliminating tax loopholes and exemptions and generating tax revenue by an improved economy if the gdp goes up. people will be making more money, presumably, that's the theory. there's some maneuverability. i suspect the pressure is so great that they will get some kind of a deal. it may not be a permanent deal but maybe enough to kick the ball down the road and study major tax reform over the next year. >> and so the congressional budget office came out with a report last week that seems to give the republicans some political cover here because it suggests that there will be no big harm to the economy if the wealthy 1% are taxed at a higher rate. that said, i would assume -- and you'll have to weigh in here tha, that loopholes are still highly in play. >> you have to add up what all of the math shows and if you -- forget about the middle class. for wealthy people you say you can no longer deduct your home mortgage, your charitable contributions, some of your --
boehner says he's open to that but not by raising the so-called tax rate. he's opened to that by eliminating tax loopholes and exemptions and generating tax revenue by an improved economy if the gdp goes up. people will be making more money, presumably, that's the theory. there's some maneuverability. i suspect the pressure is so great that they will get some kind of a deal. it may not be a permanent deal but maybe enough to kick the ball down the road and study major tax reform over the next...
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>> i almost fell out of my chair when boehner said revenues. the idea of increasing revenues. that's a central argument that we have been having over the last four years, and the very expensive i told you so i guess. if we're going to get to this problem, we have to deal with revenues, we can't just do it all on the spending side. >> jonathan capehart, there is bill kristol teaching republicans how to talk about this. but it does involve a word for word refutation of what they said in the past, that higher rates will kill the economy. there is bill kristol pointing out how we've done perfectly fine under higher rates in the past. >> what he's trying to get through to republicans, particularly the new class that came in in 2010, okay, you campaigned on all of these promises, but now it's time to govern and things have come to a standstill in washington over the last two years, and now with the fiscal cliff or fiscal curve coming, and the president being re-elected with more than 50% of the vote, it's time to make a deal. and everyone knows that in order -- that the real deal th
>> i almost fell out of my chair when boehner said revenues. the idea of increasing revenues. that's a central argument that we have been having over the last four years, and the very expensive i told you so i guess. if we're going to get to this problem, we have to deal with revenues, we can't just do it all on the spending side. >> jonathan capehart, there is bill kristol teaching republicans how to talk about this. but it does involve a word for word refutation of what they said...
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. >> and do you agree with me boehner and the republicans need to hold the line? >> i'm in favor of one that will have more revenue by economic growth. >> open up drilling. wouldn't cost the taxpayer a dime. thanks for being with us. coming up, an actress that dared to announce she was voting for mitt romney and paul ryan. she joins us next. and dave gutfeld debuts his new book, the joy of hate. straight ahead. it'that time of. time for cii price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super sparkly day! ok. [ male announcer ] now all you need is a magic carriage. citi price rewind. buy now. save later. citi price rewind. ♪ ♪ we're lucky, it's not every day you find a companion as loyal as a subaru. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. >> no secret the left loaning hollywood machine and the l
. >> and do you agree with me boehner and the republicans need to hold the line? >> i'm in favor of one that will have more revenue by economic growth. >> open up drilling. wouldn't cost the taxpayer a dime. thanks for being with us. coming up, an actress that dared to announce she was voting for mitt romney and paul ryan. she joins us next. and dave gutfeld debuts his new book, the joy of hate. straight ahead. it'that time of. time for cii price rewind. because your daughter...
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that doesn't seem like it'll be a go for john boehner, does it? >> no, at least at this point it doesn't. after all, the republicans want those tax cuts to continue. that's really the nub of it. how far they'll go, it's a very important meeting. this is really it. this is where the president weighs in. it's mano a mano. the person who's taking a harder stance is mitch mcconnell. let's listen to what he says from the senate side. >> we don't happen to think the government needs more revenue. the government spends too much as it is. if democrats are willing to reduce spending and strengthen entitlement programs, which we all know are on an unsustainable path that threatens our own long-term viability and the economic well-being of our children and grandchildren, then we'll be there. what we won't do is raise tax rates. >> okay. so read the fine print. raise tax rates. now, there's a difference between raising tax rates and raising revenue, making people pay more by doing things which the republicans have suggested like, you know, capping loopholes o
that doesn't seem like it'll be a go for john boehner, does it? >> no, at least at this point it doesn't. after all, the republicans want those tax cuts to continue. that's really the nub of it. how far they'll go, it's a very important meeting. this is really it. this is where the president weighs in. it's mano a mano. the person who's taking a harder stance is mitch mcconnell. let's listen to what he says from the senate side. >> we don't happen to think the government needs more...
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does john boehner have the votes to match that? >> the white house figures he will portray himself as the chapel yofnt middle class and the republicans are going out for the rift and he feels he can largely beat hem into submission. when they sit down to the bargaining table they might make some changes but he will want to come out of these negotiations as having largely won them and leaving scraps for the republicans. what the republicans have to hit back with is the way you increase revenues is by having rising incomes. you don't get that by higher taxes on a weakening economy. bill: the president plans to open the talks using his most recent budget proposal. wasn't that the budget that got zero votes in the senate? >> he's going to exploit it for all it's worth. you could come to an agreement using bowles and simpson and reducing rates so everyone declares victory. you have got more revenue but the rates don't go up. but i don't think the president is interested in that. if you had normal people doing this. this president web ma
does john boehner have the votes to match that? >> the white house figures he will portray himself as the chapel yofnt middle class and the republicans are going out for the rift and he feels he can largely beat hem into submission. when they sit down to the bargaining table they might make some changes but he will want to come out of these negotiations as having largely won them and leaving scraps for the republicans. what the republicans have to hit back with is the way you increase...
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seen incredible interest and openness to putting in place a deal, both from president obama and leader boehner, and a number of members of congress. >> an aide to senator majority leader harry reid told fox news, the democrats are open to various tax loopholes only if the republicans agree first to raise taxes on those making $250,000 or higher. sound familiar, chris. >> does a bit. thanks from the white house. president obama won reelection on a promise to raise taxes on high earners as a plan to raise our massive debt. republicans say they agree with the goal, but want to do it a different way than the president. jim angle tonight on their alternative. >> president obama wants to take money from wealthy taxpayers, republicans say they're willing to raise revenues, but not tax rates. and that leaves ample middle ground that could satisfy both, putting a cap on the amount of deductions any one person could claim, such as $50,000. >> that means the maximum number of deductions you can take is $50,000, you can take it for anything you want, but you can't take more than 50,000. >> the tax policy
seen incredible interest and openness to putting in place a deal, both from president obama and leader boehner, and a number of members of congress. >> an aide to senator majority leader harry reid told fox news, the democrats are open to various tax loopholes only if the republicans agree first to raise taxes on those making $250,000 or higher. sound familiar, chris. >> does a bit. thanks from the white house. president obama won reelection on a promise to raise taxes on high...
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so boehner's going to ask for cuts to go along with debt ceiling increases as well. so this is a multi-headed beast if you will, an hydra that's waiting to be solved. it they don't have a lot of time. i think we're down to 12 or 13 legislative days before the end of the year. so there you go. let's -- a grand bargain in that short of time probably isn't going to take place. i think we can expect them to punt on pretty much all these things. >> can i ask you guys quickly about the testimony of former cia director general david petraeus as he appeared this week, yesterday. with regard to the testimony he talked about the benghazi attack. the answers he gave did not seem so sit well with the gop. but each side spinning exactly what he said to suit their interpretations. should the gop, though, lay to rest all of their complaints at this point? reid, you first. >> i don't think they're going to lay anything to rest. >> but should they based on what he said? this is the guy who was in charge. >> and i think that there are probably more things that peter king and the repub
so boehner's going to ask for cuts to go along with debt ceiling increases as well. so this is a multi-headed beast if you will, an hydra that's waiting to be solved. it they don't have a lot of time. i think we're down to 12 or 13 legislative days before the end of the year. so there you go. let's -- a grand bargain in that short of time probably isn't going to take place. i think we can expect them to punt on pretty much all these things. >> can i ask you guys quickly about the...
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i get it i will get my mind right because i'm not going to buddy breathe with john boehner. you never know when he goes from lee marvin to tammy and starts sobbing openly. i'm not going to be the last guy stuck with this. i get it the country has changed. i'm all reporting for duty, sir. >> bill: so now you are going to tell me that you, dennis miller, are now giving up and are going to get in lock step with the secular progressives? >> have you ever seen the movie invasion of the body snatchers. go dead eye so they don't get hassled? that's me, man. [ laughter ] i got my -- i got my own thoughts when i'm out on the sidewalk dodging the sea pods. you are going to see this look. all right? that's exactly what you are going to see. billy, you think is a glitch. i think is a sea change. i don't think this comes back during my lifetime. i do think it comes back in the same way an alcoholic who has a brush with mortality will eventually come back. somebody will have a stroke or somebody will almost croak from alcohol will poisoning fiscally but maybe then we pull it back. this th
i get it i will get my mind right because i'm not going to buddy breathe with john boehner. you never know when he goes from lee marvin to tammy and starts sobbing openly. i'm not going to be the last guy stuck with this. i get it the country has changed. i'm all reporting for duty, sir. >> bill: so now you are going to tell me that you, dennis miller, are now giving up and are going to get in lock step with the secular progressives? >> have you ever seen the movie invasion of the...
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speaker boehner sounding somewhat optimistic. the president says that he is even open to some good ideas from republicans. he said he will not slam the door in their faces. but, again, the bottom line, the president not wanting these bush era tax cuts to be extended to wealthy americans, soledad. >> dan lothian for us this morning. before i let you go, let's talk about susan rice. obviously, you know, we see the president pretty angry, curious might be a good we to describe it, too, in defending her. how do you think that's going to end up? >> reporter: that's right. it was a very full throated defense from the president, something we've not heard from him up to this point. the president sort of making the point here if you want to attack anyone, attack me. and calling the attacks from republicans, in particular, senator john mccain, who has been going after ambassador rice because he believes that the narrative that she told shortly after those attacks as they turned out not to be the case and he wants to know why. he said we're
speaker boehner sounding somewhat optimistic. the president says that he is even open to some good ideas from republicans. he said he will not slam the door in their faces. but, again, the bottom line, the president not wanting these bush era tax cuts to be extended to wealthy americans, soledad. >> dan lothian for us this morning. before i let you go, let's talk about susan rice. obviously, you know, we see the president pretty angry, curious might be a good we to describe it, too, in...
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boehner and i think he has some interest in doing this. he's got to come up with substantial revenues as a contributor to a debt deal. >> i guess the best thing is that everybody's talking, but in your mind, what is the percentage that there will be a deal by january 1st? i say it's less than 50-50. there have been no discussion for two years. now, we've had an election. the world has changed, but is there the time that's required to have the very difficult discussions about entitlements, domestic discretionary, limits on the pentagon and revenues? it's an awful lot to get done in a short period of time. so if we can get it done, let's get it done. >> i'm hoping for a christmas day surprise, congressman. >> well, a lot of us would welcome that. >> thank you so much for joining us this morning. >> thank you. >>> this is 31 minutes past the hour. nancy pelosi likely will spend her next term the same way she spent her last one. california democrat made the official announcement moments ago. >> made the decision to submit my name to my colleag
boehner and i think he has some interest in doing this. he's got to come up with substantial revenues as a contributor to a debt deal. >> i guess the best thing is that everybody's talking, but in your mind, what is the percentage that there will be a deal by january 1st? i say it's less than 50-50. there have been no discussion for two years. now, we've had an election. the world has changed, but is there the time that's required to have the very difficult discussions about entitlements,...
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boehner to try to get the votes. mr. boehner has never been able to deliver the votes without ms. pelosi and the democrats delivering those votes. i think the democratic position is to come up with a fair and balanced proposal to not raise taxes on the middle class and to not sit back and listen to the republicans talk about robbing the banks when the bush tax cuts robbed us -- >> here's the question, will the democrats go along with cuts and entitlement spending? >> i don't know, wolf. i will be up on capitol hill on thursday. i want to hear from them. i don't want to tell them what to do because i do believe they have a mandate from the american people to basically put everything on the table and to come up with a balanced approach and not listen to the nightmares the republicans are -- >> donna has a point. and i think a lot of republicans agree with barack obama on this. but it's the barack obama who said when the economy's weak, you don't raise taxes on anybody, which is why he intended the bush tax cuts for two more years. but that's not the point. i think you'll find republ
boehner to try to get the votes. mr. boehner has never been able to deliver the votes without ms. pelosi and the democrats delivering those votes. i think the democratic position is to come up with a fair and balanced proposal to not raise taxes on the middle class and to not sit back and listen to the republicans talk about robbing the banks when the bush tax cuts robbed us -- >> here's the question, will the democrats go along with cuts and entitlement spending? >> i don't know,...
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boehner has said similar things. the administration seems to be open to perhaps tax rates not going up quite as much as they initially proposed but they're still absolutely insistent on those tax rate increases of some size. there's a lot that has to come together in a short period of time in order to get a deal. it's not impossible. but i think the risk of at least temporarily going over this cliff is significant. >> so, zanny minton-beddoughs says it's not a cliff. it's like a blue slope on a ski slope. christine says it's a cliff like a black diamond. >> big black diamond. >> other people have said it's a gentle slope like a sunny day slope down the hill. what is it, do you think? >> the problem is we're going to start going downhill and not know exactly whether it's a blue slope or a double diamond. you don't know exactly what's ahead of you, because we don't know how quickly a deal will come together. that's the problem. if on january 2nd the leadership of the congress and the president say, don't worry. we've g
boehner has said similar things. the administration seems to be open to perhaps tax rates not going up quite as much as they initially proposed but they're still absolutely insistent on those tax rate increases of some size. there's a lot that has to come together in a short period of time in order to get a deal. it's not impossible. but i think the risk of at least temporarily going over this cliff is significant. >> so, zanny minton-beddoughs says it's not a cliff. it's like a blue...
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house speaker, john boehner, wants to keep all the bush tax cuts in place. he's starting to talk about closing up tax loopholes. conservative pundit and weekly standard editor bill kristol said it's time for republicans to come so some sort of compromise. >> conservative movement has to pull back, let people float new ideas, let's have a serious debate. don't scream and yell when one person says it won't kill the country if we raise taxes a little bit on millionaires. it really won't, i don't think. i don't understand why republicans don't take obama's offer? >> cnn's senior congressional correspondent dana bash is live for us in washington, d.c. what do you make of his comments? >> soledad, look, bill kristol is not an elected official. he doesn't get a vote. but he is a very influential gop voice here in washington. and around the country. and for him to tell republicans it wouldn't kill to them to agree to tax increases for millionaires. it's a big deal. and we heard some similar talk from republicans who do have a vote like senator bob corker. listen to
house speaker, john boehner, wants to keep all the bush tax cuts in place. he's starting to talk about closing up tax loopholes. conservative pundit and weekly standard editor bill kristol said it's time for republicans to come so some sort of compromise. >> conservative movement has to pull back, let people float new ideas, let's have a serious debate. don't scream and yell when one person says it won't kill the country if we raise taxes a little bit on millionaires. it really won't, i...
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tone that we've seen since the election, whether it's from the president or the house speaker john boehner, but i can tell you in talking to sources privately on both sides of the aisle, they admit that it's all about positioning and posturing to make sure at the end of the day if we do go off the fiscal cliff that they're not blamed for it. they're the ones who looked reasonable, not unreasonable, and they're preparing for the other side to blame them for the opposite, if that makes sense. that's a lot of what you are saying in public. the reality is that neither side has a really clear machine date or clear vote and no one wants to look at the end of the day like they never gave compromise a chance. listen to republican bob corker, though, because there does seem to be a little bit of a crack on the republican side on whether or not it's okay to raise some taxes. >> i think there is a deal. the ying and yang is we know there has to be revenues, and i think -- look, i haven't met a wealthy republican or democrat in tennessee that's not willing to contribute more as long as they know we so
tone that we've seen since the election, whether it's from the president or the house speaker john boehner, but i can tell you in talking to sources privately on both sides of the aisle, they admit that it's all about positioning and posturing to make sure at the end of the day if we do go off the fiscal cliff that they're not blamed for it. they're the ones who looked reasonable, not unreasonable, and they're preparing for the other side to blame them for the opposite, if that makes sense....
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the answer at this point is likely no because even the top republican in congress, house speaker john boehner yesterday threw cold water on it saying he doesn't think it's necessary and the top democrat in the senate says the same thing, and others, as well. i have to tell you something that just happened on capitol hill, and that is our senate producer ted barrett just ran into john mccain and asked about something that we're hearing from democrats, which is john mccain is calling for more information to congress, but he had a press conference yesterday instead of going to a closed briefing where administration officials were giving more information. well, ted barrett asked john mccain about that, and it was apparently an intense very angry exchange and mccain simply would not comment on it at all. >> so this is just getting uglier and uglier, at least more passionate, shall we say, dana bash. >> absolutely. >> thanks so much. >>> the gop republicans struggling with its party identity after losing the presidential election last tuesday and it's not just pundits trying to figure out why the r
the answer at this point is likely no because even the top republican in congress, house speaker john boehner yesterday threw cold water on it saying he doesn't think it's necessary and the top democrat in the senate says the same thing, and others, as well. i have to tell you something that just happened on capitol hill, and that is our senate producer ted barrett just ran into john mccain and asked about something that we're hearing from democrats, which is john mccain is calling for more...
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and the house democratic caucus was willing to sign on the dotted line to that compromise with john boehner and eric cantor a year ago. we remain ready, willing and able to compromise. the american people have an unquenchable thirst for solutions. they have an unquenchable thirst for compromise and consensus. at that press conference yesterday it was nancy pelosi notwithstanding what governor christie has said. it was nancy pelosi who said we remain ready, willing and able to find a compromise. to find common ground with republicans to avoid the fiscal cliff. we need solutions and not sequestration. >> jonathan karl did an interview with paul ryan and what paul ryan said in this is essentially that, that the president doesn't have a mandate. karl said he won some 300 some electoral votes, every battleground state except for north carolina. does president obama have a mandate and, and he said no, i don't think so. because then nancy pelosi would be in charge of the house of representatives. and she's not. do you think that he's got a point? >> you know what has a mandate? solutions have a ha
and the house democratic caucus was willing to sign on the dotted line to that compromise with john boehner and eric cantor a year ago. we remain ready, willing and able to compromise. the american people have an unquenchable thirst for solutions. they have an unquenchable thirst for compromise and consensus. at that press conference yesterday it was nancy pelosi notwithstanding what governor christie has said. it was nancy pelosi who said we remain ready, willing and able to find a compromise....
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understand he had out there at the end point for the failed grand bargain negotiations with speaker boehner. you know how these things work. everyone stakes out their two sides and ultimately, the final decision is somewhere in the middle. >> that's right. big negotiating game. this is a starting point. brianna keilar, great to see you this morning. >> it is seven minutes past the hour. will she or won't she? do you know? >> i wish i did. >> politicos in washington want to know if nancy pelosi will seek another term as house minority leader. the 72-year-old california democrat is expected to announce her decision today. pelosi has scheduled leadership elections for november 29th. that's later than usual. and that's prompted speculation that the former speaker may relinquish her role as a top house democrat. they say she's holding this very close to the vest. >>> and coming up on "starting point," former house speaker and gop presidential hopeful newt gingrich and his wife callista. their take on the presidential election, and will also weigh in on the petraeus scandal. >> and keep it on cnn
understand he had out there at the end point for the failed grand bargain negotiations with speaker boehner. you know how these things work. everyone stakes out their two sides and ultimately, the final decision is somewhere in the middle. >> that's right. big negotiating game. this is a starting point. brianna keilar, great to see you this morning. >> it is seven minutes past the hour. will she or won't she? do you know? >> i wish i did. >> politicos in washington want...